Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

Yep, there are a bunch of racist intolerant facist bigoted murderous bstrds out there that think I'm a sl@g because I don't cover my hair, and that the blokes are drunkards and we're all going to hell. And I like a lot of you would like anyone who wants Sharia law brought into British law to just please leave.

But saying we should ban them all from flying? Comparing them to the nazis (who by the way, although no one will ever admit it for fear of upsetting the Jews, suffered terribly at the hands of the Russians in POW camps after WWII)? Do you want to end up as bigoted as the arses we're talkin about?

Israel go marching into Lebanon and no one stops them, after occupiing Palestine for however many decades. If anyone critisises them they scream holocaust.

I believe some one should not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character, to quote an amazing human being.

ie, being a muslem doesn't make you bad, being a fooking tw@t makes you bad

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

We shouldnt ban them from flying, just pay more attention to muslims than others, because so far all the terrorists have been muslims, so it makes sence!

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

No most muslims are good hardworking people but the fanatic minority are doing a very bad propaganda job for their "religion" which they have twisted into a horrific caricature of its core beliefs.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

to answer your qustion shortly; yes, i did and for a good reason.

by saing "bloke" im going to assume you are from the uk, wich is fine but noone ran a ****** plane into Big Ben, so maybe when YOUR uncle dies from terrorists, then ill see your point

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

I'm flying next week, so i'll be on gaurd. - remember , not all muslims are terrorists , but these days all the terrorists..are muslim.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

Unfortunately, if you're a native of a state known to produce terrorists, such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Yemen, basically, any middle-eastern country, you're going to be looked at. It may not seem fair, but if you come from there and want to come here (either UK or USA) then you're going to be checked out, period.

It's a sad truth, but with the IRA having gone fairly silent in the last few years, nearly every terrorist the west sees is middle-eastern. For this to end, some moderates are going to have to get control of things in there and, well, fat lot of good luck there.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

If there are good Muslims out there, they need to

join together and speak out (loud and clear) against

those terrorists who are causing wars and acts of

violence. Speak out, report them, and ostrasize them.

Otherwise, they'll all be lumped together as terrorists.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

I can see where you are coming from with this question- namely that we shouldn't tar them all with the same brush....

However, it is endemic in their culture, yes, culture- by virtue of the manner in which they are raised by their parents, that these young lads can turn to terrorism. They aren't going out and stealing cars in the name of their 'God'- they are willing to murder their english neighbours because their culture says that by doing so they will be rewarded in heaven. I am of the opinion that their parents raise these lads in such a manner that the door to commit acts of terrorism is left open to them. It is 'honourable'.

So I would reason that you need to remove the root cause.... and that if you don't it will be never ending...

I can understand your dislike of collective blame being meeted out on the good amongst them but I can't see an alternative.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

You may continue in your naievete.

But if you ignore the fact that Muslim men between the ages of 16 and 30 who tend to come from Saudi Arabia are almost 99% of our terrorists - you might pay for the error with the lives of your loved ones.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

Fifteen years ago I was working in a remote scottish youth hostel, and I received a visit from the police asking if I'd had any Irishmen staying .

Around that time the IRA bombed the centre of london, and mortared Heathrow ,both places my father worked, also some years later they blew up the people leaving a local pub that I'd occassionally drunk in ever since I was (almost) old enough.

Guy Fawkes ,is still remembered for leading a failed Catholic plot to blow up the houses of parliament.

The First World War spiralled into existance ,after an anarchist assasinated an Austrian Royal, and the Austro -Hungarian Empire insisted that they be allowed into Serbia ,to investigate and break up the Anarchist group ,that they blamed the Serbian government of supporting.(sounds familiar ,huh ?)

These are just a few examples of the flavour of the particular year for terrorist groups impacting on the British people,and others . We can add the Bader Minehoff (communist), ETA (seperatists ),numerous communist and fascist groups in central and southern America, Africa and the East, including those created or supported by the CIA , just to recall a few of the most recent and well known terrorist organisations.

Should we also include the French Resistance during the second world war ,the Americans who fought a guerrilla war against the British ,or the various other guerrilla groups that later formed governments all around the world ?

Which of these genetic groups or belief systems were especially evil ?

To me it's obvious . Those for whom killing is the first choice. Those who target the powerless to acheive power or influence.Those who believe they are right ,and those who difer need to be suppressed .

It's equally obvious that such people exist in small numbers in any community.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

It must be very difficult to be a Muslim in any country that is essentially christian. Christianity has set the culturally constructed norms to such an extent that most of the indigenous population are oblivious to its existence. It takes outsiders to recognise them. As Britain becomes evermore secular, the answer is that those of other religions must leaves their faith behind when they pass through immigration or like the Hindus, keep a Ganesh for private meditation. Respect the culture of the country that gives you a new life and the country will respect you.

The colour of a person's skin is a bit of a red herring. Hatred seems to be most venomous, the nearer an ethic match.

Yes the atrocities perpetrated by the eternal victims in Israel is an outrage and you have to track down those who orchestrate such events. 'Blanket bombing, whether by the the quasi Nazi Israelis or by the Islamists is a war crime.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

There will always be the "good" religious followers (of all religious beliefs) who will be persecuted thanks to the fanatics. Until they band together and educate the rest of the populace as to who and what they're truly about, the few bad ones are going to be the poster children and speak for them. In light of things that are happening in the world today, can you truly blame people for wanting to believe they're more safe? Unfortunately, until we can figure out a way to know exactly who's who, racial profiling will exist.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

It seems to me that we are operating out of fear and anger. Yes, many of the terrorists are Muslim (in name). But Good Muslims don't believe in this any more than the rest of the world. I am Christian, but have been married to a Muslim for over 20 years. Most of our friends are Muslim, and I have YET to see any one of them try and set off a bomb in my living room. HOWEVER, coming from Michigan (and owning a small business there at one time) I did have on several occasions, White Militia (several years ago there was a stronghold in this state) come knocking at my door asking me to typeset propaganda booklets for them telling about how they were going to kill those who didn't believe in their views. Now, should I be afraid of all young to middle-aged white males with short haircuts and flannel shirts (Horrible stereotype, I know. SORRY. Trying to make a point here).

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

As I lost my father to a Christian terrorist organisation (the IRA murdered him in the seventies), I think all Christians should be banned from flying.

All Christians are terrorists.

Doesn't have quite the same populist sound does it?

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

Where? I don't hear them! I don't see them! They are doing nothing to control they're fools.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

No I'm not forgetting the perfectly good, sane Muslims out there.

However I'm somewhat disturbed by the lack of outcry from these perfectly good, sane Muslims at the hijacking of their religion for criminal purposes.

Are you lot forgetting the perfectly sane good muslems out there?

The condemnation of terrorist atrocities from within the Muslim community has been positively muted until recent times. It is reported that 25% of them were in favour of 911. I think that your question confuses a number of different issues, for eg. criticising a persons religious practises and beliefs is not racist. You are not, thereby, criticising them because of the colour of their skin.

Like most ordinary people I have enough on my plate living day to day. I am not even remotely interested in why some Muslims claim to be dissatisfied. I didn't ask for this problem and I don't want it.

I notice that your question has solicited answers from the usual unpatriotic clever *****.